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Hi folks, I am new to this forum and I have a question. Just bought a Graphire II bundled with Photoshop ELements and Painter classic. Now browsing the web looking for info, support and instruction on Painter classic I have gathered that the classic is a stripdown Painter version that comes nowhere near the full version and is merely meant as an appetizer. But with Painter 7 being so very expensive I wonder is Painter 7 worth the money or are there shareware/freeware alternatives that could match P7's capabilities? What do you think?

Report that they don't have the same troubles. I love Painter 7, however the much cheaper Paintshop Pro while not having such a range of brushes, can be almost as useful.

You have to get used to the settings. Perhaps you would like to try Jasc.com for the trial download, which actually lasts for 60 days, folks tell me, and see if it can't do what you want. Photoshop is not as pricey as Painter, has excellent brushes and many more online, also a good option. There is a program called Pixia that I am not personally familiar with but friends of mine are doing awesome art with it and it is a free download. To check out Pixia.

I bought Painter 6 off ebay last year for $100 US or so. It was a real version (ie, not a pirate, which was important to me) as it came in the paint can (that's gimmicky but so cool:) ) with the full coloured printed material, 2 cd's and 500 plus page manual. Anyway that guy was iun Ontario (where Corel is located) and had a ton of these Painter 6 cans after Painter 7 had come out. I imagine he got some surplus old Painters at a good price. I dopn't see that guy on ebay now but you might find Painter 6 or 7 for cheaper on ebay (especially 6 which is still a good version.

Check the sellers ratings or maybe contact the buyers to see if they are true versions in box) Or you can play with Painter Classic for a while. It has a quite a number of neat features. The full Painter has so many brush options it can be almost annoying:eek.

Convention collective sonatrach pdf files. Hello fugitive, dk_art, addphan and bookworm, Thanks for your reactions. I am totally new to digital art and don't have much money to spend.

I guess the most sensible thing for me to do then is to play around and try my first steps in Painter classic. And maybe read/learn about other programs and try some freeware/trialversions.

From your answers and browsing this forum I get the impression that the differences between Painter, Photoshop and Paintshop pro are not all that great. (does the Gimp also fall in this category?) If that would be so I'd expect that most people would go for the cheaper progs and freeware. I have downloaded Pixia that allows working in layers though I have not yet the slightest idea how to do that.

My purpose with this digital painting is to make designs/drafts for actual paintings supposing that these programs let you easily try out and judge compositions, colour combinations and such. '(does the Gimp also fall in this category?)' ----------------- Some people like Gimp and apparently it's got a lot of power but when I tried it with windows 98 I couldn't get my tablet to work well at all. I may have tried it with windowsXP more recently but I can't recall. Also it seemed to have a lot of floating windows and things which is the opposite of my favoured program interface design. If you're looking for less expensive (than Painter) but good general software (I wouldn't call Painter 6 good general software.